52MPG
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 11:10:45 PM
9 Speeds vs electric motor "one speed" Hummmm.
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TruthMatters
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 5:38:01 PM
More moving parts means more service and cost, not to mention more prone to breakdowns!
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dave27johnson
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 2:27:45 PM
Interesting.
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335d1
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 1:25:45 PM
I agree, put that 9 speed transmission with a diesel and watch out!
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Mark8601
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 9:17:23 AM
lots of shifting going on with that.
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vandamme
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 8:15:43 AM
Diesels have a flatter torque curve, so maybe a 4 speed would be fine. They put VW diesels in Chrysler cars to export out of the US, why not sell them here? If we have to change presidents to make that happen, no problem.
We drive a Caliber with infinite speed transmission. Works pretty well. It would be nice if they'd perfect that instead of all those gears.
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fuel2use
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 12:42:10 AM
I remember it was a big deal for 4speed manuals and 4 speed automatics. Nine speed Wow!
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anascom
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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 12:29:34 AM
i didn't like the idea of 9-speed cars!
looks to me like a big truck-trailer vehicle !
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kenji554
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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 10:01:15 PM
put a nine speed in a torque happy diesel and you have something.
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YumaFellow
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 9:18:24 PM
It is a step in the right direction. But Chrysler still has a way to go to get back to what it was a couple of decades ago.
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TRYWI
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 8:51:28 PM
Chrysler sucks...
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tnfran
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 7:33:39 PM
quantum leap or ???? Don't know as if more 'gears' is the answer.
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JamesCalvin
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 5:57:46 PM
Is there a better way to make the mouse trap?
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VomVom
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 4:50:06 PM
There is a limit to the benefits of the number of speeds in an automatic transmission. The additional cost versus the additional benefits. 8 and 9 speeds; it is approaching or has passed the limits of the law of diminishing return!!
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DerHahn
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 4:47:48 PM
would rather have a 6 speed manual. needs an occasional clutch, but last forever.
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truvoice1
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 3:56:08 PM
Take a look at any April edition of Consumer's Reports in which they rate the repair history and reliability of all vehicles sold in America based upon surveys submitted by their millions of subscribers. Year after year Chrysler products (along with GM) are rated the least reliable with more problems than any other manufacturer. Japanese manufacturers along with some Ford products are always rated the highest. The idea of repairing an 8 or 9 speed transmission in a vehicle just out of warranty scares the bleep out of me! They only way I would even consider purchasing a Chrysler product is if they offered a full replacement warranty for as long as you own the vehicle.
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LilRedWagonIN
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 3:53:17 PM
Maybe someday, the auto industry will catch up to the bicycle industry.
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Tacodan
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 3:47:18 PM
No bailout. Vehicles 4 me...............
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skinsfan125
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 3:21:48 PM
unless it is for a tractor trailor, you can have it.
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mwc407
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 2:41:46 PM
9 speed trannys seem like overkill. Hope they don't have reliability issues - wouldn't want to pay the transmission shop to fix a 9 speed!
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MusicalMan7
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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 2:13:18 PM
Hope it's not manual. That's make an odd diagram on the shift lever.
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MrLefty0706
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 2:03:36 PM
What will this do to the average Chrysler new car price? Do BMW and Audi's have mor frequent automatic transmission problems that result from the increased number of gears? Bottom line, will this be cost effective?
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RONALD777
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 1:49:20 PM
I wonder if it will go faster?
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Cothrom
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 1:28:34 PM
For some reason, this reminds me of the first days of front wheel drive for Chrysler. Omni's and Horizons with a VW 4 cylinder 1.5 and 1.6 engine.
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car253
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 1:26:21 PM
How cost effective is this?
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 1:04:17 PM
a fiat by any other name is still a fiat
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