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PD Moderator	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 1:44:10 PM Ignore PD Report Abuse Can you imagine the day where a city decides to give its parking meters to an outside for-profit company? Well one U.S. city did that, and not only are the motorists there paying huge increases in parking rates, but the city itself will likely end up paying the entire amount that was given to them for the meters back to the company now operating and profiting off them. That's right- more corruption in the Windy City, and you can be sure that as governments sell off their assets this could happen more and more! The Windy City already sold a toll-road bridge to a private entity and guess what happened to the toll rate? It jumped. It's now nearly double what it was just years ago. So imagine this- Chicago sold its parking... Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article

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Can you imagine the day where a city decides to give its parking meters to an outside for-profit company? Well one U.S. city did that, and not only are the motorists there paying huge increases in parking rates, but the city itself will likely end up paying the entire amount that was given to them for the meters back to the company now operating and profiting off them.

That's right- more corruption in the Windy City, and you can be sure that as governments sell off their assets this could happen more and more! The Windy City already sold a toll-road bridge to a private entity and guess what happened to the toll rate? It jumped. It's now nearly double what it was just years ago.

So imagine this- Chicago sold its parking...

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SBlouch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,836 Points:1,885,285 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 1:51:17 PM Ignore SBlouch Report Abuse Chicago at its old ways of finding more ways to make money off their people. Corruption at its finest. Wonder WHO is getting a kick back from this deal???
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tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,579 Points:2,372,360 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 1:32:00 PM Ignore tomok Report Abuse This is not right! Paying a company to make money off the cities own parking meters? Employ city workers to collect and process the parking meter money. There are many honest people that would enjoy a job like this and be very happy doing it! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
csbfb73 Rookie Author Austin Posts:1 Points:269,295 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 1:31:15 PM Ignore csbfb73 Report Abuse The article is slightly misleading. When considering 75 years the time value of money comes into play. The present value of a annuity with $14 million payments over 75 years at 3% inflation is $415.8 million. But that number doesn't quite have the effect they wanted.
DaisysMomNC All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:959 Points:200,850 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 1:30:46 PM Ignore DaisysMomNC Report Abuse That sounds like Chicago!! We saw some really bazaar things happen when we lived in that area- like the night Mayor Daily bull dozed the downtown airport when the citizens didn't vote to make a park there so he just took it upon himself to do it anyway. That is a crazy city!!!
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apiergallini Veteran Author North Carolina Posts:389 Points:249,955 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 1:28:54 PM Ignore apiergallini Report Abuse When the government is running something, the majority of posters here on GB chant "privatize, privatize!" Now that it's been done, and you got your wish, it's somehow because of Democratic corruption? You got what you wanted, and now you're trying to shift the blame for the bad results to the other side. Obviously, they should not have voted to adopt a contract none of them had read, and obviously it was written in such a way that it seriously benefited CPM to the detriment of the city, but that doesn't make it corruption. How many people actually read the Patriot Act before they voted on it days after 9/11? When has deregulation or privatization led to lower costs for the consumer? When I was in the Marines, they were transitioning from a Marine-controlled IT infrastructure, where we ran the networks, units purchases their own computers, and Marines would go fix an issue shortly after it was reported, to a contractor-controlled infrastructure, where they ran the networks, we LEASED laptops at a rate of like $3,000 per YEAR, and trouble calls were allowed to take up to 72 hours before work began on them, per the agreement. Privatization worked out so well, and saved so much money, that the Department of the Navy declined to renew the contract. The parking meter debacle is just another example of privatization making things worse and more expensive.
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crusader1975 Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,161 Points:320,040 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 1:25:36 PM Ignore crusader1975 Report Abuse It's not about safety or whether someone is breaking the law. It's all about the $$$.
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jcotaxi Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,868 Points:381,890 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 1:24:39 PM Ignore jcotaxi Report Abuse Corruption usually occurs when governments change things. The corrupting parties continue to point the finger at others as a distraction. Then they move in. This is progressivism.