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mikeangel Rookie Author Miami Posts:16 Points:800 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2006 7:46:56 AM Ignore mikeangel Report Abuse Any teacherof being charge for anything are being suspended but being paid, that's not right

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Any teacherof being charge for anything are being suspended but being paid, that's not right

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NintendoGas Rookie Author Vancouver Posts:6 Points:73,025 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jul 17, 2012 3:36:39 PM Ignore NintendoGas Report Abuse no lol
tasha88CA All-Star Author California Posts:602 Points:43,315 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 11:08:45 PM Ignore tasha88CA Report Abuse depends on what happen.
jelman All-Star Author Calgary Posts:724 Points:14,260 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 20, 2012 11:27:44 AM Ignore jelman Report Abuse You are missing the point. A guy may NOT be lazy, but it may not be his choice not to work because he is accused of something that he may not be guilty of. I've seen it happen. And what? Cut him off and let him go on welfare even if he did nothing wrong? It is one thing when a verdict is proven, it is another thing when it is just alleged.
jackster111 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,303 Points:422,635 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Mar 19, 2012 3:49:49 PM Ignore jackster111 Report Abuse No way, that's just getting money for being lazy, not right at all. If you are gonna earn money, work for it.
kristist Veteran Author Kansas Posts:263 Points:39,790 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Mar 9, 2012 8:57:09 PM Ignore kristist Report Abuse NO they should not get paid while off!!
daver39 Champion Author Toledo Posts:8,319 Points:1,681,125 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Mar 2, 2012 9:31:29 AM Ignore daver39 Report Abuse It would have to depend on the situation. Not all are alike.* See Zero Tolerance postings * [Edited by: daver39 at 3/2/2012 9:32:11 AM EST]
jelman All-Star Author Calgary Posts:724 Points:14,260 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2012 3:29:39 PM Ignore jelman Report Abuse still don't have an answer to my question, how does this person that hasn't been convicted, and may be innocent, pay their bills/mortgage and feed their family? It is too simplistic to say that because he's not working he shouldn't be paid. I agree whole heartedly AFTER a conviction, but before, life still goes on the way it was. And sometimes it takes months before a hearing takes place.
waig Veteran Author Philadelphia Posts:307 Points:87,965 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 6:53:37 PM Ignore waig Report Abuse NO
agasmiser Champion Author Long Island Posts:12,732 Points:2,405,020 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:49:52 PM Ignore agasmiser Report Abuse When anyone is suspended it should include all pay also. During a suspension that person is not working at their job. It is ludricous to pay an individual for doing nothing. Ask any taxpayer.
jelman All-Star Author Calgary Posts:724 Points:14,260 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Feb 18, 2012 7:08:17 PM Ignore jelman Report Abuse again, as been pointed out a couple of times, how does this person that hasn't been convicted pay their bills/mortgage and feed their family? If this happened to me, I'd have to go on welfare even though I may be completely innocent. There is a reality out there, and it costs money to live in this world.
jgs818 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,457 Points:655,225 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 18, 2012 1:43:26 PM Ignore jgs818 Report Abuse clearly if they are suspended or removed you shouldnt earn salary until AFTER the outcome/circumstances are found and reviewed.
chas410 Sophomore Author Tulsa Posts:215 Points:58,980 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2012 2:10:30 PM Ignore chas410 Report Abuse No work, No pay
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,691 Points:744,385 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jan 23, 2012 5:48:24 PM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse no work, no pay? Then reassign that teacher to a Central Office job until the matter is investigated. If that can't be done, pay the teacher until the matter is settled.
fredjara All-Star Author California Posts:595 Points:123,415 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2011 10:00:10 PM Ignore fredjara Report Abuse False accusations were brought against a teacher in a nearby town. Three girls plotted against a teacher. It went to court. One girl had a change of heart and told the truth. The charges were dismissed against the teacher, but his career was already ruined. That is absolutely UNFAIR. Our careers could be ruined at the word of a kid who for whatever reason decides he or she doesn't like you. Bottom line, a teacher or administrator should be put on admin leave with full pay until proven guilty. After all, we are in the United States, and under our Constitution, we are innocent until PROVEN guilty.
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,691 Points:744,385 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2011 8:51:54 AM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse Having been falsely accused by three girls who were friends, and one of whom I gave a bad grade, I can categorically say that false accusations DO happen and the teacher or administrator SHOULD be paid until the situation is resolved. In my case, fortunately, an Instructional Assistant overheard the girls plotting their story and reported it to the administration before the girls did. Just imagine what might have happened had she not overheard the girls. As an analogy, imagine that your neighbor or coworker accused you of abusing your child and you were denied access to your family or home until the case went to trial...
JetManCT Champion Author Hartford Posts:3,610 Points:716,670 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2011 2:35:08 AM Ignore JetManCT Report Abuse no work, no pay.
magicpete Rookie Author Ontario Posts:30 Points:12,700 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 6, 2010 9:41:31 PM Ignore magicpete Report Abuse To everyone who thinks "it depends on the situation." NO it does NOT. Regardless of the accusation, sexual misconduct, inappropriate touching or even-for the sake of argument-murder, no one should be suspended without pay on accusation alone. I am Canadian, but American laws, while different make it clear that until due process has occured and a court has released its findings, no one is guilty! So what if the teacher is paid full salary while on forced leave? He has done nothing wrong so he should not suffer any repecussion at all-yet. If,after due process the accused is found guilty,the Board is of course right to fire him and write off the extra salary as a "the price of democracy and rule of law." End of story. If we want the students we teach (I am a retired teacher) to respect the law,we have to show them how it works. This is how it works in both the US and Canada.
mweyant Champion Author Maryland Posts:5,521 Points:980,405 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2010 5:14:29 AM Ignore mweyant Report Abuse It depends on the circumstances, and I believe this should be the case regardless of the profession or career, not just in education. [Edited by: mweyant at 10/3/2010 5:14:51 AM EST]
RadarIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:5,082 Points:1,055,020 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Sep 24, 2010 9:03:51 AM Ignore RadarIN Report Abuse It depends on the circumstances.
bmct Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:5,930 Points:1,146,300 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2010 5:23:35 AM Ignore bmct Report Abuse I think they shpould not be paid while on suspension.
magicpete Rookie Author Ontario Posts:30 Points:12,700 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2010 9:00:39 PM Ignore magicpete Report Abuse No one in any job should be suspended without pay on an accusation alone. If one is found guilty after due process, then dismiss him or her. In teaching and other public service it's all too easy for someone with an axe to grind to make an accusation against a teacher or police officer and have him suspended. While it is probably true that more guilty people are accused than innocent ones, the law requires due process before a vedict is rendered. Until any verdict is given, the accused deserves the benefit of the doubt and should therefore be paid. Double jeopardy is neither right nor fair.
NanookAK Champion Author Anchorage Posts:7,235 Points:1,438,090 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2010 12:48:06 PM Ignore NanookAK Report Abuse Depends on the circumstances.
JoeTheGuyInRI Veteran Author Rhode Island Posts:413 Points:63,340 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 25, 2010 8:54:22 PM Ignore JoeTheGuyInRI Report Abuse It depends on what the teacher did, if it was really bad, then no pay, if they haven't determined but suspended him or her, they should be paid.
nags1head Champion Author North Carolina Posts:1,811 Points:488,845 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 24, 2009 11:00:12 PM Ignore nags1head Report Abuse The teacher should get paid until proven guilty. If the teacher is acquited then the accuser should be sued for the money the school paid out as a result of the false accusation. [Edited by: nags1head at 11/24/2009 11:01:22 PM EST]
AnyPort Sophomore Author Oklahoma Posts:170 Points:16,625 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2009 8:39:14 PM Ignore AnyPort Report Abuse DUH!!! Innocent till PROVEN guilty. If Innocent, the accuser should be suspended.
wannahybridNC Champion Author Charlotte Posts:1,165 Points:31,290 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Aug 22, 2008 3:03:54 PM Ignore wannahybridNC Report Abuse Spendhappy, Kids don't get suspended without just cause. They don't just suspend a kid because somebody is telling stories. Students at my school have the option to pick up their work while out on suspension so they don't fall behind. That is their option though.
wannahybridNC Champion Author Charlotte Posts:1,165 Points:31,290 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Aug 22, 2008 3:02:14 PM Ignore wannahybridNC Report Abuse As bad as it sounds, until the case is solved and the teacher is found guilty, suspended with pay is the best option. Think about what you would lose if you were suspended under false accusations. You would lose your car, your house, your bills would just not get paid. When the teacher is found to be not guilty (as it happened down here), besides the teacher's reputation, they would also lose their house, car and everything about life...all because somebody made up a story because they were mad at a particular teacher. If they are found guilty, then the school can garnish future wages and/or sue to get their money back. The school is like the government, they won't be without their money. So as bad as it sounds, pending a guilty verdict, the teacher should be suspended with pay in the event of a non-guilty verdict where they would not only have to build their reputation back up, but credit and everything else.
soutxed Champion Author Texas Posts:14,515 Points:2,209,940 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 22, 2008 9:10:24 AM Ignore soutxed Report Abuse childoftibet; How does a teacher pay his/her bills while suspended? If a teacher is found guilty of an infraction that warrents termination, the district could sue to get the pay back. Some investigations take over a year. That is long time to go without food or utilities.
irthekid Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,226 Points:1,816,495 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2008 12:50:58 PM Ignore irthekid Report Abuse Where does a teacher who is falsely accused get his/her reputation back?
spendhappy Rookie Author Montana Posts:8 Points:375 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2008 3:01:57 AM Ignore spendhappy Report Abuse DOES A STUDENT GET CREDIT FOR BEING SUSPENDED. NO!!!!!!!!!!
irthekid Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,226 Points:1,816,495 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2008 12:18:34 PM Ignore irthekid Report Abuse So what does the district do about the contract it has with the teachers? Just because you my be upset, that does not give the district the right to void the teachers contract. If the teacher is found guilty of a particular offense you will have time for your pound of flesh.
childoftibet Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,730 Points:78,975 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Aug 11, 2008 3:23:46 AM Ignore childoftibet Report Abuse Suspensions should be without pay. After investigation if the suspension has been unfounded, then the back pay should be awarded.
BLUEYES1949 Rookie Author San Diego Posts:16 Points:1,160 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 7, 2008 11:46:39 PM Ignore BLUEYES1949 Report Abuse Why shouldn't a teacher be payed when they are suspended. You're not giving us the whole story I feel, because you seem to have a very strong opinion here.
gaschecker5 Champion Author Newfoundland Posts:6,781 Points:2,175,265 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 22, 2008 6:37:25 AM Ignore gaschecker5 Report Abuse They should be paid when suspended. Just because they are accused of something does not mean they are guilty. When guilt has been established it is of course a different story.
design_guy06 Champion Author Ontario Posts:7,606 Points:1,615,095 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jun 22, 2008 4:34:36 PM Ignore design_guy06 Report Abuse If a teacher does something bad, they should be suspended without pay. That way it teaches them a lesson. This too goes for police officers or any type of job.
Lander02 Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:138 Points:53,570 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2008 12:57:35 AM Ignore Lander02 Report Abuse mikeangel, have you thought this through completely? What if someone accused you of something. Your employer would probably need to suspend you until it had been resolved. Does that mean you should lose your pay because someone may have been mad at you and pulled a dumb joke? I hate to say it, but sometimes kids have tried to "get back" at their teachers for giving them a poor grade or reprimanding them in class. While this is not always the case, would it not be better to err on the side of Due Process? Let's not make hasty judgments. After all, people are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
C4U Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:9,194 Points:1,791,605 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jun 12, 2008 12:38:26 AM Ignore C4U Report Abuse Sounds like individual feel that if a teacher is falsely accused of something they should lose their daily pay for the time they were falsely accused. (I am not talking about teachers that have been deemed doing something that is agaisnt the law or policy) Gee, I guess based upon these premises then anybody that is accused of something should be sent home with out pay, reguardless if they did it or not! I think this is called "Due Process" and employees are entitled this as part of their rights. Due process is in most policy and procedures manuals for most jobs.
irthekid Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,226 Points:1,816,495 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: May 17, 2008 7:45:18 AM Ignore irthekid Report Abuse A teacher would be something academic in nature and not competing with administrators for "desk space."
soutxed Champion Author Texas Posts:14,515 Points:2,209,940 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 16, 2008 8:48:15 AM Ignore soutxed Report Abuse In our district, they usually are sent home. They are too many administrators doing "desk duty" for teachers to fill.
irthekid Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,226 Points:1,816,495 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: May 15, 2008 10:01:30 AM Ignore irthekid Report Abuse It also depends upon what the local laws are and what the teacher contract says.
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,691 Points:744,385 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 14, 2008 1:39:30 PM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse Suspended with pay is not a "paid vacation". Teachers are reassigned to non-teaching duties, where they do not interact with children, much like a police officer getting "desk duty" while an investigation is made for an officer-involved shooting.
saolah Champion Author Delaware Posts:2,382 Points:489,545 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Dec 15, 2007 4:34:37 PM Ignore saolah Report Abuse If the Board Of Ed. Pays a teacher it should be at Half pay
saolah Champion Author Delaware Posts:2,382 Points:489,545 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Dec 15, 2007 4:33:15 PM Ignore saolah Report Abuse No they should not get paid!!!!!
soutxed Champion Author Texas Posts:14,515 Points:2,209,940 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2007 9:08:51 AM Ignore soutxed Report Abuse What unproven offense would be included in suspension without pay?
design_guy06 Champion Author Ontario Posts:7,606 Points:1,615,095 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Nov 24, 2007 8:53:09 PM Ignore design_guy06 Report Abuse Depends on what the offense is.
Chazzer Champion Author Nevada Posts:16,231 Points:3,330,555 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2007 12:03:21 PM Ignore Chazzer Report Abuse It depends what the offense is.
soutxed Champion Author Texas Posts:14,515 Points:2,209,940 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2007 9:48:54 AM Ignore soutxed Report Abuse owt Who pays the bills for the suspended teacher in the mean time? Some of these "investigations" can take up to a year.
owt Champion Author Tennessee Posts:10,284 Points:1,591,430 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 25, 2007 4:50:20 PM Ignore owt Report Abuse It is just a paid vacation. Anyone suspended (my opinion) should be without pay and if proven not quilty-pay them the back pay.
soutxed Champion Author Texas Posts:14,515 Points:2,209,940 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Apr 18, 2007 10:35:02 AM Ignore soutxed Report Abuse Slightly related to the topic is what recently happened to the Duke LaCrosse team. Charges were made and a rouge prosecutor continued to investigate and hide evidence. These poor guys lost a year of schooling and their reputations have been ruined. A student (or parent) can make charges and even if proven false, that reputation may or may not be the same. The least a district can do is pay them. bryceisright--I thought that a government had to prove guilt, not a teacher (or anyone else) had to prove innocence.
pkhdonovan Champion Author Maine Posts:11,991 Points:2,701,905 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2007 3:04:34 PM Ignore pkhdonovan Report Abuse Its okay, but if the teacher is found guilty they should repay the money.