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wdbcab All-Star Author Georgia Posts:608 Points:79,465 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 6:52:39 AM Ignore wdbcab Report Abuse From the midwest to New York and Boston, they're complaining about the cold and amount of snow, where is al gore and his global warming scam when ya need him?

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From the midwest to New York and Boston, they're complaining about the cold and amount of snow, where is al gore and his global warming scam when ya need him?

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gougedQC Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,140 Points:69,985 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2009 7:26:10 PM Ignore gougedQC Report Abuse it was Mohib Latif, a believer in anthropogenic global warming and a world respected climate scientist who said normally occuring ie "natural", regional climate variations can temporarily override for up to ten years in some cases, a man made trend. ie global warming. This was widely misquoted and deniers trumpeted that Latif having "switched sides" to them, because he said the wild climate was due to "natural causes" For the record Latif did NOT switch sides at all and any global warming skeptic who cites him and his presentation as an example is very foolish as he is definitely not on their side.
catspaw Champion Author Toronto Posts:29,929 Points:3,149,735 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 11:23:41 AM Ignore catspaw Report Abuse Gee usfmom, without identifying who and what exactly you're tlaking about, that's so vague as to be hard to refute. (Or is that what you had in mind?) I DID hear of one "leading proponent" of GW who recently was misquoted in a short statement to make it APPEAR as if he'd changed his mind, but qho quickly made sure that wasn't the intention he wanted to make. But of course, the GW deniers don't ever mention that. And nobody else can if you don't tell us who it was and what he said.
gougedQC Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,140 Points:69,985 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 6, 2009 10:50:01 PM Ignore gougedQC Report Abuse hmmm.. if i was a funding agency-tasked with dealing wisely with taxpayers money- and highly respected scientists all over the world in a variety of scientific fields, and the vast majority by far were all saying "look we have clear evidence of a very worrisome problem here, and one in which it also seems very clear that human activity is behind it to some extent, and all the military forces of developed countries were developing courses of action based on how the evidence shows there could be thrests to state security, and when ongoing study -again from a wide variety of reliable sources around the world- is continually showing that the trend seems to be getting more serious than even early modelling had predicted, THEN, why would you fund a couple of limited individuals who say, "its not happening, or its natural and we neednt worry" Frankly, Id rather my tax dollars go to study and planning for what IS going to occur than fund some fringe element saying, stay the course, don't worry (remember MAD magazine?- dont worry) Frankly Ive seen the changes quite clearly in my lifetime.
usfmom Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,269 Points:263,290 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 25, 2009 9:32:17 AM Ignore usfmom Report Abuse I thought I'd heard that the leading proponent of global warming had changed his mind based on new data, now the political movement that had once labeled him a hero, is chastising him for his change of views. All political nonsense
catspaw Champion Author Toronto Posts:29,929 Points:3,149,735 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 6:03:58 PM Ignore catspaw Report Abuse "Scientist are being pressured by the government and special interest groups to fall in line with the Global Warming Theory by cutting grants and other monies to those who don't comply."Yeah, right. LOL So why would the Bush government do such a thing when they didn't believe in Global Warming? So that they couldndistract loyal Republicans from the mess they were making in Iraq? And why would the US government, of ANY administration, be paying off the scientists of all the other countries in the world. You need a dose of reality JayMac.
JayMac08 Champion Author Jackson Posts:3,386 Points:205,430 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 22, 2009 6:15:09 PM Ignore JayMac08 Report Abuse It's a Farce!!!! Scientist are being pressured by the government and special interest groups to fall in line with the Global Warming Theory by cutting grants and other monies to those who don't comply.
OilHo Champion Author Ontario Posts:10,904 Points:2,129,120 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jan 8, 2009 2:12:55 AM Ignore OilHo Report Abuse I think Al Gore is in Mexico looking for some heat. It's been below average for a year in my hood.
Pard Champion Author Detroit Posts:86,062 Points:3,156,810 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jan 1, 2009 9:36:43 PM Ignore Pard Report Abuse Read what I posted here. That makes more sense to me than the greenhouse gas/carbon emission thing.
zooknoone Champion Author Nevada Posts:20,584 Points:1,631,280 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2008 2:28:49 PM Ignore zooknoone Report Abuse The link disproves absolutely nothing. There may be a supposed controversy here, even if most scientists seem to agree global warming is the real deal and that human emissions from carbon are the leading cause. Even if they are all wrong - which who knows - anything is possible - like malcm says - how can the reduction of pollution be a bad thing?
malcm Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,000 Points:1,277,270 Joined:Dec 2003	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2008 1:54:59 PM Ignore malcm Report Abuse In reply, I refer to my post of 12/23. The crux of the matter is increasing global POLLUTION - wether or not it results in warming! There simply is no alternative to BREATHING! Are your lungs unimportant? Clean energy must be our focus - unless you have no concern at all for future generations, which is all too often revealed by the remark, "Well, I'll be long gone by then". WAKE UP! Also - read THE CREATION, by E. O. Wilson. [Edited by: malcm at 12/28/2008 1:58:34 PM EST]
no1doc Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:20,937 Points:1,803,990 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2008 6:51:29 AM Ignore no1doc Report Abuse 2008 Was the Year Man Made Global Warming Was Disproved
studlee Rookie Author Dallas Posts:1 Points:14,945 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 27, 2008 9:26:56 PM Ignore studlee Report Abuse Don't be fooled by the GAS/OIL companies lowering the price of gas.We've been trapped in gas burning vehicles for 100+ years. Now is the time for a Natural gas-Plug in Hybrid car/truck. This will reduce emissions by 90% and cost You about 6-10 dollars a week in fuel!!Exxon made $15,000,000,000.00 last 3-months. They certainly don't care to get rid of gasoline now do they?? Please let's clean up the CO2 ETC. for Our kids and grandkids so they don't have to choke to DEATH!!!
malcm Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,000 Points:1,277,270 Joined:Dec 2003	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2008 12:13:12 AM Ignore malcm Report Abuse From the book, The View from the Center of the Universe, by Primack & Abrams - 2006. page 364:- In the 1800s there were 280 parts per million(ppm) of CO2 in the atmosphere, by 1900, about 295 ppm. Now it's 365ppm. If we continue If we continue with business as usual, CO2 will increase to about 600ppm by 2050. Strenuous efforts could lower that to only 500ppm, but that would still be nearly twice what it's been for for the last several hundred thousand years. (How do they know that? Dunno) If we remain addicted to burning fossil fuels, CO2 could go over 1,000ppm by 2100. That's serious greenhouse territory.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,989 Points:2,864,700 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2008 7:39:24 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Heh! Zim's link says it all... that the whole climate change issue is mainly just a political issue. -plas→ environmental° [Edited by: plastic at 12/23/2008 7:39:36 AM EST]
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,989 Points:2,864,700 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2008 7:36:52 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Zook, adjuster man, in the scientific realm, the whole climate change issue is considered to be a multi-faceted theory. One in which real scientists study and collect data. The public hears from non-scientists, using bits and pieces of data from scientists, as indicators to back up whatever agenda they wish. This goes both ways. (Actually the real issue has more than two sides.) I simply asked where Gasbud received that information since the world's scientists have not yet been able to demonstrate the ability to measure global climate change in order to disprove (or prove if you wish) any theory.
Clayton2000 Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,545 Points:516,930 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2008 7:14:47 AM Ignore Clayton2000 Report Abuse Bunch of BS, we are running 12 degrees below normal for far.
wdbcab All-Star Author Georgia Posts:608 Points:79,465 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2008 7:01:26 AM Ignore wdbcab Report Abuse I guess some people just enjoy being lied to. The planet is NOT getting warmer, statistics show that we have been in a cooling trend since 1998, and so far, this winter is in the same mode. There is not one piece of evidence that shows man is causing a warming effect. BTW...CO2 is NOT a pollutant, but you liberals can buy carbon credits on e-bay, the money goes directly to al bore.
GBGuy Champion Author Illinois Posts:13,541 Points:2,390,785 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2008 6:20:52 AM Ignore GBGuy Report Abuse It went away, at least for now.
Zimcity Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:65,789 Points:3,716,605 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 11:06:53 PM Ignore Zimcity Report Abuse Why it's alive and kicking
zooknoone Champion Author Nevada Posts:20,584 Points:1,631,280 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 11:01:45 PM Ignore zooknoone Report Abuse I don't know plas - once you step outside of the whole world order paranoia - there are a group of people called scientists who actually document that the temperatures are getting warmer. It could be a conspiracy. I'm sure all the folks way back when said the same thing about the Earth being round when they all thought it was flat. [Edited by: zooknoone at 12/22/2008 11:02:06 PM EST]
willy911 Champion Author Maine Posts:1,054 Points:55,425 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 9:35:00 PM Ignore willy911 Report Abuse its just a cycle. we live such short lives that we cant see the whole thing. the ice caps will melt, which will put cold water in to the oceans, that will make the earth cool back down, ice caps will reform, and it happens again.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,989 Points:2,864,700 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 9:31:53 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Gasbud, you say that the world is getting warmer overall. How, may I ask, do you know this?
gasbud4 Champion Author San Jose Posts:10,785 Points:1,656,690 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 7:04:11 PM Ignore gasbud4 Report Abuse Well, the world is getting warmer overall, but it's more accurate to call the changing climates "global climate change". The world in general is going to be getting more extreme weather. Some places will get warmer during all or part of the year, some colder. Some places will get drier during all or part of the year; some might get wetter. This refers to the CLIMATE (the norm over years and decades), not to the weather over short periods of time (e.g. over months or a season). I haven't heard Al Gore speak about global warming or global climate change. Since I don't know what he said, I won't attempt to comment on what he said.
chocolateflash Champion Author San Diego Posts:14,820 Points:2,712,705 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 4:16:37 PM Ignore chocolateflash Report Abuse According to those who know, the jet stream which is bringing all the lousy weather to the US is part of the changing weather patterns. If one believes that then we do not need Fat Albert to tell us, we are experiencing it. Fires, mudslides, record rains in LA--all muchly needed in oneway or another, but change all the same. That's what OB and the Democrats promised, it's just a tad early. A change you can believe in. Sure!
zornave Champion Author Louisville Posts:13,890 Points:2,204,700 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 3:44:51 PM Ignore zornave Report Abuse How can they predict globAL warming when they can't accurately predict the weather a week in advance?
YKnot05 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:22,665 Points:2,413,035 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 11:29:32 AM Ignore YKnot05 Report Abuse I heard that it was put on "hold" for the next decade or so. I guess this is so that the libs can try to save face while the data pours in proving that global warming never was anything but a hoax. Hey, so how will they blame us for global cooling and what "greening" will we need to reverse that? You thought global warming was going to be bad? Wait until you see the opposite affects of cooling.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,989 Points:2,864,700 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 11:28:26 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Good thing you know that, BMN, too bad you're still confused.
ItsMorph Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:33,654 Points:3,212,220 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 11:00:47 AM Ignore ItsMorph Report Abuse I'm not confusing anything. Local meteoroligst says that 4 of the five snowiest winters in Michigan have been since 2000. [Edited by: ItsMorph at 12/22/2008 11:01:58 AM EST]
CGrover Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:32,873 Points:3,192,585 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 9:59:57 AM Ignore CGrover Report Abuse I'm with geezer, where did all the brains go?
wally28546 Champion Author Orlando Posts:5,560 Points:1,097,535 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 9:45:33 AM Ignore wally28546 Report Abuse The libs don't give a damn about global warming. They only care about Gobal Control
MustangVicki89 Champion Author New Brunswick Posts:3,085 Points:148,165 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 9:36:42 AM Ignore MustangVicki89 Report Abuse Global freezing around here!! Plus we have TONS of snow right now!
geezer Champion Author Albany Posts:21,471 Points:3,098,545 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 8:25:30 AM Ignore geezer Report Abuse I dunno about global warming, but global stupidity is going strong.
tomvan Champion Author Bridgeport Posts:9,443 Points:2,499,295 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2008 6:58:08 AM Ignore tomvan Report Abuse The liberals changed its name to "Climate Change".